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If We Were Villains (2017)

by M.L. Rio

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"Much like Donna Tartt's The Secret History, M. L. Rio's sparkling debut is a richly layered story of love, friendship, and obsession...If We Were Villains will keep you riveted through its final, electrifying moments."
â??Cynthia D'Aprix Sweeney, New York Times bestselling author of The Nest

Oliver Marks has just served ten years in jail â?? for a murder he may or may not have committed. On the day he's released, he's greeted by the man who put him in prison. Detective Colborne is retiring, but before he does, he wants to know what really happened a decade ago.
As one of seven young actors studying Shakespeare at an elite arts college, Oliver and his friends play the same roles onstage and off: hero, villain, tyrant, temptress. But when the casting changes, and the secondary characters usurp the stars, the plays spill dangerously over into life, and one of them is found dead. The rest face their greatest acting challenge yet: convincing the police, and themselves, that they are blameless.
Intelligent, thrilling, and richly detailed, If We Were Villains is a captivating story of the enduring power and passion of words
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Fucking hell this will be on my mind for a while.
Oliver and James bro tho WTF
I CANT EVEN
I honestly don’t care that it’s taken me just less than a month to read bc I can say I was INVESTED

Oliver was in love with James so much he took the blame, hoping he’d be with him when he’s out of prison just to find out James killed himself FOUR YEARS EARLIER. ( )
  HSDCAce | Apr 2, 2024 |
what the hell ( )
  sashaxoxo | Apr 1, 2024 |
Serious “The Secret History” by Tartt vibes going on here. Instead of so much booze and drugs, it’s too much Shakespeare. Seriously though, it really is too much Shakespeare. To the point that I just skipped through the endless dialogues that involved it. And who speaks amongst each other like that? No one, that’s who.
Now that I have gotten that out of the way, the book is pretty good. Story is about a group of theatre students (obsessed with Shakespeare, of course) that are good friends until they are not. One of them gets murdered, and it all unravels pretty quick. Lies, betrayal, jealousy, treachery… you name it.
Ending is fab, with a great twist that you kinda see it coming, and are pleased to confirm after the last page.
Definitely read it, and be patient with the endless Bard situation going on in there. ( )
  AleAleta | Mar 28, 2024 |
For seven acting students of a famed theatre college a life of hedonist debauchery comes full circle when the Shakespearean troupe is caught within the nightmare of their own real-life Shakespearean tragedy. In a case of profound irony the excesses, jealousies, insecurities and fears that dwell within human nature, chronicled and portrayed so well by their playwright idol and mentor, become the mirror held up to them. They are now the villains and heroes, seducers and conspirators in a play that writes its lines according to their own actions. Caught in a spiderweb of betrayal and disloyalty, without realizing it, they are fated to play their roles once more - with no less than their own fates in jeopardy. Hamlet's resignation as he spoke "There is nothing left for me than blame it all on fate" sets the tone for the last act.

"If we were Villains" is eloquent and entertaining. Intermittent quotes from Shakespeare's plays are well-placed. Solidly above average fiction fare, providing an intriguing mystery, this novel also educates us with less well known fact about Shakespeares plays. This deserves 4 stars.
Small caveat: In recent years there are more and more gay/lesbian characters included in mainstream fiction. Although there is in principle nothing wrong with that, it does make me wonder if this is done for socio-political reasons. The proportion of readers that call themselves gay/lesbian I'd reckon to be rather tiny. What is more important is that the main character in "Villains" being gay just doesn't fit all too well within the plot and background. Naturally, this is just my humble opinion and I stand corrected on both counts, anytime. ( )
  nitrolpost | Mar 19, 2024 |
I really enjoyed this book. It is a lot more than a sum of its parts. Yes, it is a Dark Academia murder mystery set in an elite college, but it is so much more than that. The author is a Shakespearean scholar and this book is a love letter to his work. Some of his plays are so beautifully entwined in the plot and the characters, who are all aspiring Shakesperean actors.

Finally, we get some great character development. So good, actually, that the plot is not even the main driving force of this novel. I must say I got the whole mystery part early on, but it didn't stop me from enjoying this at all. The atmosphere is darkly beautiful and evocative.

I guess what I loved the most about this book is that it is not about a murder mystery reveal, but about a realization of love, the whole development takes us to that place. It is a Shakesperean tragedy written in reverse that ends like a very subdued, but very intense romance. ( )
  ZeljanaMaricFerli | Mar 4, 2024 |
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In this strong and assured first novel, Rio crafts an intricate story about friendship, love, and betrayal. Recommended for readers who enjoy literary fiction by authors such as Tartt or Emily St. John Mandel.
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This novel about obsession at the conservatory will thoroughly obsess you.
 
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For the many weird and wonderful thespians whom I have had the good fortune to call my friends. (I promise this is not about you.)
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I sit with my wrists cuffed to the table and I think, But that I am forbid / To tell the secrets of my prison house, / I could a tale unfold whose lightest word / Would harrow up thy soul.
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"You can justify anything if you can do it poetically enough."
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Fiction. Literature. Suspense. Thriller. HTML:

"Much like Donna Tartt's The Secret History, M. L. Rio's sparkling debut is a richly layered story of love, friendship, and obsession...If We Were Villains will keep you riveted through its final, electrifying moments."
â??Cynthia D'Aprix Sweeney, New York Times bestselling author of The Nest

Oliver Marks has just served ten years in jail â?? for a murder he may or may not have committed. On the day he's released, he's greeted by the man who put him in prison. Detective Colborne is retiring, but before he does, he wants to know what really happened a decade ago.
As one of seven young actors studying Shakespeare at an elite arts college, Oliver and his friends play the same roles onstage and off: hero, villain, tyrant, temptress. But when the casting changes, and the secondary characters usurp the stars, the plays spill dangerously over into life, and one of them is found dead. The rest face their greatest acting challenge yet: convincing the police, and themselves, that they are blameless.
Intelligent, thrilling, and richly detailed, If We Were Villains is a captivating story of the enduring power and passion of words

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Enter the players.
There were seven of us then, seven bright young things with wide precious futures ahead of us, though we saw no further than the books in front of our faces.


On the day Oliver Marks is released from jail, the man who put him there is waiting at the door. Detective Colborne wants to know the truth, and after ten years, Oliver is finally ready to tell it.

Ten years ago: Oliver is one of seven young Shakespearean actors at Dellecher Classical Conservatory, a place of keen ambition and fierce competition. In this secluded world of firelight and leather-bound books, Oliver and his friends play the same roles onstage and off: hero, villain, tyrant, temptress, ingénue, extras. But in their fourth and final year, the balance of power begins to shift, good-natured rivalries turn ugly, and on opening night real violence invades the students' world of make-believe. In the morning, fourth-years find themselves facing their very own tragedy and their greatest acting challenge yet: convincing the police, one another, and themselves that they are innocent.

Part coming-of-age story, part confession, If We Were Villains explores the magical and dangerous boundary between art and life. In this tale of loyalty and betrayal, madness and ecstasy, the players must choose what roles to play before the curtain falls.

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